Season 12, Episode 4: Points

Never have I ever been this upset about a “To Be Continued…” at the end of a “Bachelorette” episode. WHAT DOES CHAD DO OUTSIDE THE HOTEL?! We have to wait two weeks to find out. This season has taken a delicious detour into horror movie territory and I’m HERE FOR IT.

Twenty-five wildcard points last night went to Evan, who was the first man to bleed. Although I’m making this face to the editors

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for using some smoke and mirrors to make it seem like Chad was responsible for said bleeding. Instead, the cause was Intense Synchronized Swimming™.

Onto the points! Some men scored double rose points this week, which we allowed — however, we did not count any other category twice, per our usual rule of once per episode (so Robby and Jordan only got kissing points once).

ALSO WE NEED YOUR EYEBALLS: there was a shot of some of the men with their tootsies in the hot tub in the first five minutes of the episode during the pool party. I don’t have DVR — and my co-founder was at the Beyonce concert so we didn’t catch it! If you know exactly who was in the hot tub at that moment, comment and we’ll update the points accordingly. Thanks!

  • Alex: 120 points STAT CORRECTION
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Being selected to go on a two-on-one date (30 points)
    • Riding in a helicopter (10 points)
    • Getting the rose on a two-on-one date (40 points)
    • Kissing the Bachelorette on the lips (10 points)
    • Going on a picnic (5 points)
  • Ali: 5 points STAT CORRECTION FOR HOT TUB
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
  • Chad: 75 points STAT CORRECTION
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
    • Being selected to go on a two-on-one date (30 points)
    • Riding in a helicopter (10 points)
    • Going on a picnic (5 points)
  • Chase: 25 points STAT CORRECTION FOR HOT TUB
    • Being selected to go on a group date (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
  • Christian: 5 points STAT CORRECTION FOR HOT TUB
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
  • Daniel: 50 points STAT CORRECTION
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Being selected to go on a group date (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
  • Derek: 75 points STAT CORRECTION FOR HOT TUB
    • Kissing the Bachelorette on the lips for Episode 3 (10 points)
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Being selected to go on a group date (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)
    • Being apart of the “team” who wins alone time with the Bachelorette on a group date (15 points)
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
  • Evan: 70 points STAT CORRECTION
    • Wildcard points: first man to bleed (25 points)
    • Interrupting someone’s one-on-one time (5 points)
    • Being selected to go on a group date (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)
    • Being apart of the “team” who wins alone time with the Bachelorette on a group date (15 points)
    • Mentioning his kid (5 points)
  • Grant: 45 points
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Being selected to go on a group date (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)
  • James F.: 50 points STAT CORRECTION FOR HOT TUB
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Being selected to go on a group date (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
  • James Taylor: 65 points
    • Being selected to go on a group date for Episode 3 (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)
    • Needing medical attention (20 points)
    • Being apart of the “team” who wins alone time with the Bachelorette on a group date (15 points)
    • Kissing the Bachelorette on the lips (10 points)
  • Jordan: 130 points STAT CORRECTION FOR HOT TUB
    • Kissing the Bachelorette on the lips for Episode 3 (10 points)
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Being selected to go on a group date (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)
    • Being apart of the “team” who wins alone time with the Bachelorette on a group date (15 points)
    • Saying “I’m falling for you” to the Bachelorette (20 points)
    • Getting the rose on a group date (35 points)
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
  • Luke: 130 points STAT CORRECTION
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Being selected for a one-on-one date (20 points)
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
    • Kissing the Bachelorette on the lips (10 points)
    • Mentioning a deceased loved one (10 points)
    • Getting the rose to stay another week (25 points)
    • Dancing (5 points)
    • Attending a concert (10 points)
    • Saying “I’m falling for her to the camera” (20 points)
  • Nick B: 5 points STAT CORRECTION FOR HOT TUB
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
  • Robby: 95 points STAT CORRECTION
    • Kissing the Bachelorette on the lips for Episode 3 (10 points)
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Being selected to go on a group date (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)
    • Being apart of the “team” who wins alone time with the Bachelorette on a group date (15 points)
    • Saying “I’m falling for her” to the camera (20 points)
    • Hot tubbing (5 points)
  • Vinny: 60 points
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Being selected to go on a group date (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)
    • Being apart of the “team” who wins alone time with the Bachelorette on a group date (15 points)
  • Wells: 45 points
    • Getting the rose to stay another week for Episode 3 (25 points)
    • Being selected to go on a group date (10 points)
    • Riding on a boat (10 points)

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39 thoughts on “Season 12, Episode 4: Points

  1. Annie says:

    Hey there,

    Some questions on points –

    Wouldn’t you consider that Alex/Chad went on a picnic with Jojo during their 2-on-1?

    I believe that both Robby and Luke said they were “falling for” Jojo. Could be wrong, but I seem to remember this.

    • Anne E. Cullen says:

      Or perhaps it was Jordan and Luke (as I see you credited Jordan above). I just seem to recall it was more than one contestant who did use that phrase. Sorry if I’m sending you on a goose chase!

      • Bach Fantasy says:

        Nope, you’re totally right about the picnic! They’ve been updated accordingly :) I kinda forgot they were drinking something on that rock — which is what constitutes a picnic in our book (gotta have food or drink on the ground).

        Also, we’ve got Robby, Jordan, and Luke saying it. I realized that my TV cut out for a breaking election update probably during Robby’s confession because I didn’t hear it at all. I must’ve missed Luke’s totally, though.

    • Chelsea says:

      I feel like I rememberJojo saying something about Robby saying that to her; I can’t remember if they actually aired him SAYING that…? Anyone?

      • Paige says:

        Robby said he was falling in love with Jojo day by day around minute 55 in the billiards room

  2. Margie says:

    Robby was also on the winning team on the group date!
    I was rooting for that team the whole time just so he would win ;)

  3. Paige says:

    Daniel got 10 points for hot tubbing (should be 5). Wasn’t Robby on the team that won extra time?

  4. A says:

    Shouldn’t Chad and Alex get points for “Going on a picnic”? They had a blanket, drinking and were sitting on the ground.

    And Robby was part of the team that “won” time on the group date.

    • Bach Fantasy says:

      Ah yes, they did drink something, didn’t they?! We only award points for a picnic if they’re eating or drinking but they were drinking something. Updating now!

      And Robby’s already been updated, thanks!

  5. Aurora says:

    Just tweeted at you! I’m thinking: Derek, Nick B., Ali, Robby, Chase, [JoJo] Chad, Wells, Daniel, James F., Christian???? Not sure if it’s Chase but trying to use deductive reasoning. :)

    • Aurora says:

      RE: Hot Tub Scene

      • Bach Fantasy says:

        Thanks so much, Aurora!! I’ll see what others have said on Twitter and update ASAP.

      • cristina says:

        i’d say that’s grant, not christian (going off of bone structure/head shape). also, the little wavy/curly tuft of hair in the bottom left-ish corner of that photo looks like it could belong to james taylor.

  6. Dan says:

    I count 13 people in the hot tub. I can see Ali, Chad, Nick B., and Jordan, but I can’t really make out (or tell apart) the others. I’m uploading a photo so you can see it here: http://imgur.com/Yfeue7d

    • Bach Fantasy says:

      DAN THE MAN. Thank you so much. We’re gonna have it all updated in about 5 minutes here or so based on tweets, comments, and this helpful image.

      We decided if we can’t see a face or reasonably deduce who it is based on their hair/posture/body, they’re not gonna get any hot tubbing points.

    • EP says:

      I see Jordan’s blue and white printed shorts, Nick, Ali, Chase, Chad, Daniel, James F, Christian, Derek in that image. Not sure who wore white shorts or who the black hair at the very bottom of the image is, or the grey shorts in the lower left by Jordan are though.

  7. jovee says:

    Doesn’t James T get points for needing medical attention – stitches?

  8. Katie says:

    Will Chad’s points count next episode since he’s technically “eliminated”?

    • Bach Fantasy says:

      They will! If he does anything point-worthy on the show in two weeks, he’ll get those points because although he’s been eliminated, it seems like he just won’t go home.

      In the Pennsylvania woods, no one can hear you scream….

  9. Lynne says:

    You should add a points category for using the phrase ” I demand an apology” (-5 points) / and being asked to apologize (+5 points for making good T.V.)

    • Bach Fantasy says:

      Hahaha that’s a good idea! We do that as a special points category in the Men Tell All/Women Tell All but there’s been a lot of apology demands as of late…

  10. Kyle says:

    Why did Luke get points for getting a rose twice?

    • Bach Fantasy says:

      So a couple of guys got two rose points because JoJo opened with a rose ceremony at the beginning of the episode, and then gave some dudes a rose on their dates (Luke and Jordan).

      Be sure to scroll back and see our points post for Episode 3 too!

  11. Sean says:

    Does Evan hot tubbing at the end of the episode with Daniel count?

  12. Melanie says:

    Hi! Two quick catches:
    -Evan mentioned his kid when he was talking about “throwing the ball around” with them in an effort to make up for his lack of athletic ability.
    -When did these guys go on a boat? Did I black out? Possible.

    Thanks!

    • jld says:

      i thought the same thing about the boat. it’s also quite possible that i blacked out too :)

    • Jen says:

      I’m assuming the boat was the pool floaties?

    • A says:

      Pretty sure this was right before they got to Heinz stadium, the group date took a boat to get there. It was some sort of ferry and they shout “JOJO!” It’s in the season promo.

    • Bach Fantasy says:

      Good catch on the Evan thing! Updated now.

      And yes, the boat was en route to Heinz stadium. It was brief!

  13. MeLeaha Viergutz says:

    Quick Question, I saw not everyone got points for a rose to stay the next week, how come??

    • Bach Fantasy says:

      There was one rose ceremony at the beginning of the episode, but not one at the end! That’s why :)

  14. Jen says:

    Does anyone know who it was that went into the pool in his suit?

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