Season 21, Episode 8: Points


In Hoxie, Arkansas, Raven and Nick ride ATVs, wrestle in mud and gator piss, and then hike to the top of a grain silo, where her brother fake-arrests them.

In Houston, Rachel’s family was completely adorable…but the date felt pointless because we know she’s the next Bachelorette. Why did ABC release that info so soon?

In Miami, Corinne and Nick created a Clueless montage in Miami’s “most exclusive mall,” before retreating to Corinne’s family’s high-rise apartment, where they ate olives and drank wine out of what can only be described as individual punch bowls.

In Montreal, we met 97 of Vanessa’s closest friends and family (but nary a statement necklace in sight…).

Wildcard points: 15 points to any lady with a family member wearing a statement necklace. Corinne’s dad was rocking a sweet gold chain with a few chest pubes poking out, but a statement necklace it was not.

Onto the points!

  • Corinne: 95 points 
    • Making it to Hometown Dates (50 points)
    • Kissing the Bachelor (10 points)
    • Giving the Bachelor a gift: a $3,000 peacoat (5 points)
    • Saying “I love you” to the Bachelor (30 points)
  • Rachel: 140 points 
    • Making it to Hometown Dates (50 points)
    • Kissing the Bachelor (10 points)
    • Dancing (5 points)
    • Wildcard points: statement necklaces galore, this family is so cute (15 points)
    • Saying “I’m falling in love with Nick” to the camera (20 points)
    • Being chosen as the next Bachelorette (40 points)
  • Raven: 115 points 
    • Making it to Hometown Dates (50 points)
    • Wearing a helmet (5 points)
    • Kissing the Bachelor (10 points)
    • Crying on camera (25 points)
    • Saying “I’m falling in love with him” to her mom (20 points)
    • Talking about her parents’ relationship (5 points)
  • Vanessa: 115 points – STAT CORRECTION
    • Making it to Hometown Dates (50 points)
    • Kissing the Bachelor (10 points)
    • Talking about her parents’ relationship (5 points)
    • Saying “I love Nick/falling in love with Nick” to the camera (20 points)
    • Crying on camera (25 points)
    • Giving a gift to Nick: scrapbook from her students/Italian pocket dictionary (5 points)

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19 thoughts on “Season 21, Episode 8: Points

  1. Rachel says:

    I think Vanessa gave Nick a gift – the scrapbook her students made. Yes? :)

  2. Pam says:

    There was a rose ceremony at the beginning of the night – all 4 got roses, even Raven who got the date rose last week – does she get to count her rose last night too?!!?!

    • Kate says:

      Definitely not a rose ceremony

      • cristina says:

        but the category is “getting the rose to stay another week,” which they all did.

      • Pam says:

        You are right Kate, it wasn’t a traditional rose ceremony, more of a rose sit-around, but they all did get a rose to stay another week.

    • Smizz says:

      MNick said he didn’t want to put them through a normal rose ceremony, but he still asked each girl if they would accept the rose. I feel like that still counts as “getting a rose to stay another week”.

    • Rachel says:

      I’m thinking the “making it to hometown dates” points are in lieu of the points they would normally get for a rose?

    • Jake says:

      Raven already got those points last week. If you get a rose from a date you dont also get “rose to stay another week” points as well. even though she got a literal second rose, she still shouldnt double dip on points. (bitter about being last place in my league…)

  3. Julie says:

    I believe that one of rachels family members i believe her older sister had on a statement necklace

  4. Emily Secrest says:

    I believe Rachel’s hometown was in Dallas – not Houston.

  5. Martha says:

    Does anyone get the points for “discussing parents relationship”? I feel like raven and Vanessa spoke about it to nick in this episode

  6. Melanie says:

    Hello! Sorry I’m late to the party. I had an interview this morning and literally said to the panel “I swore I wasn’t going to talk about the Bachelor here, but the job means so much to me I actually waited till Tuesday night to watch instead of Monday so I could prepare.” So I probably won’t be getting that job. Alas.

    Here are my questions for this week:
    1) Did Corinne say she was in love with him to the camera or to an olive-eating member of her family? I feel like she did.
    2) At the very end of the episode during the credits, Vanessa gives Nick an Italian pocket dictionary. Can that be considered a gift?

    As always, thanks for all you do!

    • Bach Fantasy says:

      HAHAH Melanie. If it were up to us, you’d be hired.

      1. I did not catch that but it’s VERY possible she said that because she likes to toss that phrase around a lot. Can anyone else confirm?
      2. My dang DVR often cuts off the credits and it’s legit never been a problem until this season, when the women are always doing points-earning shenanigans in the last 10 seconds of the show. That would totally count, but I’ve already awarded her five points for the scrapbook her students made him, so we’re already covered :)

      Thank you!

      • Sara says:

        Okay guys – here is my in-depth analysis (aka transcription) via Hulu:

        42 min in:
        “I really really fell for you. And… I… love you.” – Corinne to Nick
        “I said I love you! Ahhhh. Oh my god.” – Corinne to confessional
        43 min in:
        “I hope my family will love Nick just as much as I do. Orrr I don’t know what I’m going to do.” – Corinne to confessional
        47 min in:
        “I told him today that I loved him” – Corinne to Papa Olympios
        49 min in:
        “I asked her today, She love you? She said, She love you too.” – Raquel to Nick re: conversation with Corinne
        52 min in:
        “I just wanna, you know, make sure, are you happy? Do you love him?” – Mama Olympios to Corinne
        “I love him.”- Corinne to Mama Olympios
        “Okay, I’m happy for you, but don’t forget it’s fantasy, you know, and so” – Mama Olympios to Corinne
        “Nooo mom, this is, I want you, to remind you that this is very real. I am in love with Nick and if he chooses any of the other 3 girls, I am going to be heartbroken.” – Corinne to Mama Olympios
        53 min in (about 53:30)
        “I think Corrinne is the lid to Nick’s pot. I really do!” – Papa Olympios — this is not a category I just thought it was the most ridiculous phrase but upon Googling I guess it’s an “old Southern adage” – —-
        54 min in
        “I feel even, like, more in love with Nick and more confidence about our connection and relationship.” – Corrinne to confessional
        55 min in
        “I love Nick. I’m in love with Nick. I just hate that he’s still dating 3 other girls. *fake dry heave* Ew.” – Corinne to confessional

        Hope this was helpful and it really made me miss Papa Olympios’s gold chain.

    • Melanie says:

      OMG SARA. I’m dying. Thank you for your further research. I’ll give Corinne those “I’m in love with you points.”

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